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♪ no, the whiskey, it ain't working anymore ♪ >> go ahead and let it go! [cheers and applause] >> yeah! >> what do you think about the band so far? the fabulous superlatives. ..
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when we heard the bad news about the store. this is the wh oc radio. 1000 watts of pure pleasure it is called. he says the storm is coming. this is called katrina. he says that could be the end of time. that's the way it sounded to me so i was up there visiting and i thought this would be the end of time. i wanted a something that is what to do in my life. so i went to the training depot, stood next to the track because i knew the train is coming out of south mississippi and i wanted to stand as close as i could and see how close i could get my nose to play chicken with the train. i heard that train coming. ♪
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yeah, that train was coming. ♪ heard it come out and then here comes towards philadelphia. i went and stood by the track and said forgive me. i stuck my nose up there and closed my eyes and felt about car go by. i saw my cubs scout uniform. i saw johnny cash go by, moral hackers phone number go by, i saw dolly parton, you know, go by. everything went by, and even the trees were begging for mercy. but you did thanks to you. there wasn't no train, know-how. it was just a ghost train. i wrote this song standing at the depot called ghost train dedicated to you in that ugly old storm called katrina.
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♪ ♪ >> i go down to the depot appeared the trains don't run no more. ♪ take a ticket and start walking down to the old gold sure. ♪ i'm looking for a train that runs styling with the wind. bound for nowhere, ghost train 4010. ♪ katrina took my cotton, let me busted down to scratch.
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well, my woman couldn't take a hard time. she ain't never coming back. eight now you send me sane the words to my next of kin. ♪ i'm leaving, yes i am leaving on ghost train 4010. ♪ i've seen it in my drains, heard it in my mind. somewhere between 12:06 just passed the 309. ♪ the soul is all it takes to ride it to the end. black steel bound for nowhere, ghost train 4010.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ no questions asked during third, how it is a valid p.e. no particular destination heading back to where it's been. ♪ black steel bound for nowhere,
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ghost train 4010. ghost train 4010. ♪ ghost train 4010. ♪ [cheers and applause] >> thank you very much. i didn't know she was going to come when i got invited, but i'm introduced excited to introduce you to my wife. how about a hand for the great connie smith. [applause] hi, baby. i told you a few married me i take you to beautiful, exotic places. >> i'm honored to be here.
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always an honor to be with my husband, marty stuart. ain't tigre. ♪ amazing grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me. ♪ i once was lost, but now i'm found. i was blind, but now i see. ♪ disgrace that taught my heart to fear and grace my fear relieved.
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♪ how precious did that grace appear, and be our i first believed. ♪ ♪
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>> through many dangers, and i have already come. his grace as brought me this far. god's grace will lead me home. ♪ now when we've been there 10,000 years we --
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♪ then when we first begun. ♪ amazing grace, how sweet the sound. that saved a wretch like me. ♪ >> ms. connie smith, everybody. [applause] come here, handsome harry. you never know when you write a song where it is going to land. there were just vice admin pull in day. we wrote this song and we recorded it didn't know anything about anything. when the storm had there was the
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rally crowd a lot of networks use the song. there's a rainbow at the end of every storm. are you with me? are you with me? [laughter] all right. ♪ well, there's a rainbow at the end of every storm. with troubles and trials stand in your way, when you get weary, too weary to cry, look to the sky and reach for your arms, there is a rainbow at the end of
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every storm. ♪ your heart gets heavy, can't find peace. when clouds of doubt all around you fall, there is a rainbow at the end of every storm. ♪ and his name is jesus. ♪ his name is jesus. ♪ and he will be there, he will be there to keep you from every
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harm. ♪ piece the rainbow at the end of every storm. ♪ well, his name is jesus, wonderful savior. ♪ and beginning in the middle. he will be there to keep you from every harm. he is the rainbow at the end of every storm. wow, he used the rainbow at the end of every storm. ♪ >> tell the truth.
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♪ there is an -- that lead through ways i cannot see. while going through this world, this hand still leaves me as i go. i am trusting to the unseen hand
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, that guides me through this weary land. ♪ still guide you by the unseen hand. ♪ i learned to see my savior space. ♪ and hear the story of his grace.
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and thereupon that golden stripe, all praise him for his guiding hand. ♪ i trust him to the unseen hand that guides me through this weary land. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ [applause] >> thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very much.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> we are going to break away from live coverage from the ceremony for firsters understood
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hurricane katrina 10 years ago. we will return my two gulfport, mississippi where former president george w. bush will be speaking shortly. ♪ >> i'm going down to louisiana. ♪ i just want to tell katrina i ain't never coming back again. ♪ >> this is the shame of it. this is in america.
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>> where several hundred sites across the state, about 120 or so in the new orleans area. katrina was an enormous, very powerful storm and acid overwhelms the system, but fortunately would happen again. >> what katrina has done is cause to culture diaz for her. our culture has been sprinkled out all over the country. >> this is like a ghost town here. the devastation. ♪ >> no warrants is now home to less than 50% of its population prior to the storm.
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a c-span journalist traveled in august to take a look at recovery efforts for the worst flooding occurred. the lower ninth ward where the canal breached, to gentilly district with a lundgren street canal flooded and the lakeview district with a 17th canal walls did not hold that. while there, we talk with vocal citizens and federal government agency officials about what is being done one year after katrina. >> i really should have gone out of town at some point this year. a lot of the psychologists were recommending you need to get out of town. once a month get out of town, see friends. you've got to get away from this because it's really bad for your stress level. the >> we sue sperry -- and also has two programs that operation comeback and rebuilding together attempting to help citizens rebuild their homes in the city.
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>> we are in the seventh ward in new orleans behind the historic district. it is not strictly by itself and historic district even though there are historic homes here. this is where we are at a year after the storm. >> how much flood damaged at the seventh ward get? >> people god street level, eight or nine feet. i would say inside homes perhaps by the six feet these houses are raised in a traditional style. this style opponents a double shotgun. what is great about these homes being built for this environment is they are raised.
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water can go underneath them. they can be ventilated. they have windows and doors on all five, good for air circulation. the construction is the best thing about it. they have cypress framing and if the old riverside press that doesn't get flood damage. many of these people have hard pine floors that drayton out just fine. you can see a real big mix of homes, old and new. >> is this for dominantly an african-american neighborhood? >> is a predominantly. not altogether, but for the most part. this might be the street. you don't know.
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there is a high water mark on that home and you see it's a little bit higher and it is raised a little bit. when you see these high water marks, it is standing water in the water wasn't nice, fresh bottled water type of water. the water was from canals. here is an example of a home that can dry out just fine. you can see it is structurally sound. it is raised up. mold doesn't really kill you. mold eats on paper and certain organic things. once it is dry, it dies. and once it dies, it is not going to hurt you. the problem in this neighborhood neighborhood -- >> with olympus look at the 10th anniversary of hurricane
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katrina and go back live to the tribute to some of those firefighters and other first responders during hurricane katrina. this is live coverage on c-span2. we are expecting remarks from president bush. as you can see, his wife laura is on stage along with haley barbour, former governor of georgia. >> they said we've got a very important visitor here to help him. in fact, he did. he came down time and time again. he was one of those presidents that knew where biloxi and gulfport and who they were. ladies and gentlemen, george w. bush. [applause]
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>> thank you, all. >> the governor, laura and i are glad to be here. he said that the most pair combined -- [inaudible] governor and deborah, you are kind to welcome laura and me. i can't think of a better place i would like to be than here honoring the sacrifice and service of so many to do with the horrific storm of katrina. the first person i thought about was haley barbour. i will never forget when he said that somebody shoot to when you were alluding, we are not going to prosecute the shooter.
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[cheers and applause] and guess what happened, there wasn't any looting. they were fantastic readers. it is a reminder during these major catastrophes it is important to have strong leadership at the state level in order to help the citizen of their estates. haley barbour provided that leadership and for that, the people of mississippi are grateful to you. [applause] i'm thrilled to be here on stage with two fine united states senators. one of them wasn't a senator during that period of time. one of them is tried. they did you all the surveys for
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making sure billions came down here to help in the recovery. i kind of got tired of their phone calls. every time we need a little more money. but the money was well spent in this part of the world is coming back stronger than it was before and we are grateful to be in your presence. [applause] pointed thank you for welcoming me and laura. last time i was here to look quite so pretty. the place was just totally devastated and then to see all the folks is a testimony to the recovery of the gulf coast. you know, when i think about
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katrina, i of course think about the lives lost, 248 in mississippi. i know you will join me to pray for the loved ones who mourn the lives lost. it's important to realize how positive the future can be. you know, i'll never forget flying over waveland. the new bongo was the mayor. i mean tommy. my old friend, tommy. when you were mayor, you had a better seat. [laughter] is hard to see that fire, but i see you waving and i hope you are doing well. i don't know if you remember
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eddie. eddie, did you ever change your shorts? still got them on. i must tell you it looks like you might need a size larger. [laughter] rocky pullman, i don't know if the county supervisors around, but it was a joy to meet these local officials. about my friend aj all the way holloway. there he is. [applause] it was a doubt in everybody's mind whether these cities can recover. not in the minds of the leaders who run these cities and counties. it was an impressive display of leadership on the gold coast. breadboard. i don't know if he is here today or not. how are you doing, buddy?
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great to see you. he was on the job for like one day. that's what we call a test of leadership. i really want to praise the first responders who are here and i want to praise our military. the devastation of the storm was just unbelievable. most americans have no clue what it was like. they can see it on tv, but you couldn't get a feel for it unless you were here. but most americans can't get a feel of this scourge in your dedication of the thousands who rushed into harms way. america and the people of the geek ou a huge debt of gratitude. [applause] the 10th anniversary is a good time to honor courage and
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resolve. it's also a good time to remember how blessed we are to live in such a compassionate nation. i don't know if you remember but there were church groups all around the state of mississippi and around the nation that came down to help feed the hungry and how's those who have lost their home. no law, no government edict said you need to go down in. my judgment a respondent to a higher calling. love thy neighbor like you love thyself. the great testimony to the character of the american people for people who come help total strangers. i remember the baptist men's luncheon group feeding people. i was hungry so they said he. but it was so inspiring and i hope you remember that i hope
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the people of the country honoring your sacrifices if they pay attention to the 10th anniversary recognize the uniqueness of america is found in the compassion of its citizenry and the storm brought that out a lot. i want to thank the governor and his team as well as the business people, the workers who were to get the gold coast back up and running. everybody will tell you there is more work to be done. but if you don't have what i've got, which is my memory of what it looks like, it may be hard to see how much progress has been made. you have made a lot. it's a vibrant part of our country. [applause] and by the way, president 41 has
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got a lot of friends in this state. [applause] he asks me all the time how he's doing and i say just fine. he's got a sense of humor. after all he thought the guy who thought getting out of bed at the age of 91 with the more dangerous than jumping out of an airplane. and he's still feisty. she sends her best as well. [applause] they ask us what life is like after the presidency. it is great. beau and i are glad to be living in texas. we love texas. it is our home. we are happy to have returned. when you are over 65 years old and exhibitor friends, all you
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do is talk about medicine you take in your grandkids. we finally got to. mila can speak mandarin. so life is wonderful. we are thrilled to be back here with you. we thank you for the example you set with the great state full of great people. god bless. [applause] [applause]
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>> i am not running again. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> the first responders commemoration wrapping up its 10th anniversary remembrance for first responders during hurricane katrina. this one with archival video in discussions about the hurricane can be viewed on our website. go to c-span.org. more hurricane katrina anniversary coverage like tomorrow. former president bill clinton, new orleans mayor mitch landrieu and residents all take part in a commemorative event. live coverage is not c-span.
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they will get underway at 6:00 p.m. eastern. >> well, there is a lot to watch this week and i c-span network that politics, books and history a weekend. tomorrow, hurricane katrina's 10th anniversary all day in 6:00 p.m. eastern our live coverage of the new orleans community commemoration in celebration. booktv on c-span2 at 10:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow evening. afterwards program talking about his book undocumented, a dominican boy's odyssey from a homeless shelter to the ivy league. on sunday on american history tv which is c-span 3 weekends.
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>> about a year after hurricane katrina we went back to two or new orleans to find out what work has been done since the storm. >> i'm going down to louisiana. i'm going to give me a mojo hand. i'm going down to louisiana and give me a mojo hand. ♪ i just wanted it to train at. i ain't never coming back again. >> this is the shame of it.
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this is america. >> we have several hundred sites across the state. 120 or so in the new orleans area. >> basically katrina was an enormous, very powerful storm and that unfortunately would happen again. >> where katrina has a cultural past or a, our culture has been sprinkled out all over the country. >> it's like a ghost town here. ♪
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>> the city of new orleans is now home to less than 50% of the population prior to the storm. a c-span video journalist traveled there in august to look at recovery efforts were some of the worst flooding occurred. the lower ninth ward where the industrial canal wall breach, the chinchilla district with a london street canal flooded and the lakeview district were the 17th lakeview district with a 17 street canal walls did not hold. while there, we talk with local citizen and government agency officials about what is done one year after katrina. >> i should have gone out of town some point this year. a lot of the psychologists are recommending you need to get out of town when demand. you've got to get away from that. this is really bad for your stress level. >> wistar programmer sues dairy with an organization working on preserving the historic district and also has two programs.
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operation comeback in rebuilding together attempting to help citizens rebuild homes in the city. >> we are in the seventh word in new orleans. it is behind the historic district. it is not strictly by itself and historic district even though there are historic homes here. this is where we are at a year after the storm. people got by with a street level eight or nine feet. i would say inside homes perhaps five to six feet depending on the home. these houses are raised. do i have this on? maybe not raised enough. this style of home is a double
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shotgun. what is great about these homes as far as being billed for the environment as they are brave spirit water can go underneath them. they can be better than elated. they have windows and doors on all sides good for air circulation. the construction is the best thing about it is that the cyprus framing enfield riverside press that grows in water so it doesn't give flood damage. many of these people at heart pine floors which straighten out just fine. you see a real big mix of homes, old and new. [inaudible] >> i was a predominantly. not altogether but for the most part. it reflects the cities balance i would say.
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we don't know. there is a high water mark on that home. you see it's a little bit higher and it is raised a little bit. when you see high water marks, it is standing water and the water wasn't nice and fresh bottled water type of water. the water was from canals. here is an example of a home that can dry out just fine. you can see it is structurally sound. it is raised a period mold is something everybody fears, but it doesn't kill you. mold you. multitime you. mold eats on paper organic things. once it is dry it dies and once it dies it is not going to hurt you. the problem in this neighborhood
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which is typical of so many new orleans neighborhoods is the people of flood insurance. this is very, very expensive and the people that live in this house, 25 new orleans street. the people that live in this house lived in it for 50 years. it is paid for. the man is a retired maître d'. the people you rely on for everything they give their lives to serve others and they didn't deserve to have what happened to them happen. we got their home back together before the trailer could be hooked up. we beat theme. they are back in their homes. i hate to drop in on them, but we might.
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>> tell me about your neighborhood. >> i can't get a telephone. [inaudible] it's going to be three months before we can get a house telephone. this area was really badly hit. but they wanted to give me a phone. it was $30 a month, 1000 hours but no fee. it's not like a cell phone that can take outside of the house.
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i leave the house in so many people are calling me. [inaudible] >> you're the only one in this neighborhood? >> the whole block. we lost three. the whole square ... in three of our neighbors around. >> rebuilding together. >> rebuilding together. >> they didn't want to come back. >> what are the chances the services are still back.
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are there grocery stores, other things? >> had to go on the west bank. >> how far away? >> the west bank is across the bridge, across the mississippi river. >> across the mississippi river. [inaudible] they are trying to build up. there are a few old stores trying to build up but it doesn't matter if we don't have transportation. >> any buses? [inaudible] >> how long have you been living in new orleans? >> all my life. 77 years.
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[inaudible] i have to call tomorrow morning. >> what are the biggest differences now compared to before katrina? >> the biggest differences shopping. shopping, transportation, communication, everything. it is hard for us right now. but thank god --
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[inaudible] thanks to rebuilding together. the fema trailer came a week before the house was finished. [inaudible] the trailer got here a couple days before the house was finished to move into. >> you can't live in it or open it up. the seven contract errors at a minimum to place a trailer. i had a trailer as well. some of these things make sense. somebody comes and come inspect the site. that makes sense. somebody comes in and make sure all the electrical stuff is there. then they deliver the trailer. then someone else comes by, and other contractor to inspect the
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trailer now that it is they are. and then someone else comes by to do something else and hook up the plumbing and it is all set up and ready to go and another separate contract or calms and gives you the keys and makes you sign things. >> it's been there a couple weeks. >> it cost about $55,000 from one i've read in the times for the process of a temporary trailer. that includes having to pick it up for a 40,000 you can get people home and familiar, comfortable surroundings. >> is this a fema trailer park? [inaudible] >> in his first responders. she has got police across this route. >> it's very nice. they holler at us. are you all right?
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we are okay. we don't have violence, not this way. >> now with a whole trailer park full of cops you are not going to have that problem. >> are you waiting on fema to come take it away? >> i'm not telling them to take it away. it's not bothering me. it has a refrigerator bathroom. we still use it. we worked so hard to get it. it's up to them when they want to move it. but we have the house now. very pleased, very satisfied by very comfortable. i feel safe. i really do.
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we lock the doors at night and feel safe. you don't see problems around here or have problems around here. we really feel safe around here. >> transportation seems to be the biggest problem. >> the biggest problem is transportation. to the grocery, get to the doctor. trying to get the.or is back again. >> the doctors have left town? >> yasser retired or moved to tulane university hospital. or they retired and they are not coming back. but i feel good. i feel good and i thank god that we are back home.
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it is not what we had before, but i am back home. no place like new orleans. even though we live 10 months -- [inaudible] thanks to rebuilding together. >> people are just getting around to getting. there's an august 29th anniversary with getting your house got it. given the number of seniors in the neighborhood, it is not physically possible. they have to have some help. >> that is the house. individuals have to do that
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themselves? >> a lot of time with family members. the family gets together and does the work. there are a lot of agencies that handle it. so people ask us about it. we don't do getting. we did in the beginning a little bit. but there are so many other volunteer groups that are doing at that we recommend that. that is the really hard process to go through. i went through it myself. it is like you just have to throw your entire life on the curb and plus it is moldy and it stinks and it is hot and it is a heartbreaking process to throw everything away. once you get it guided and cleaned, you really feel like you can start again. >> a mile away sits another fema
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trailer park for first responders. we met up with fema representative jim stark they are. >> just south of the gentilly neighborhood in the borland, a few groups in travel trailers sites where we have a number of applicants. 53 mobile homes and travel trailers housing first responders for the city essentially and there are some general population also. with fema tried to do was for first responders very quickly said they would be there to provide essential services to the city. this is one of those sites. we have several hundred sites across the state. about 100 or 20 in the new orleans area. the group cites are an alternative for folks who don't have a private site it out. in other words, if their house was destroyed and they want a travel trailer or mobile home
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put on their site by dave rebuilt, that is one thing. we will accommodate that. but if they were either renters are there sites not suitable for a travel trailer, they are then eligible to be placed in a group site. we've established these various locations around the city and state. >> what is the estimated length of time the folks will be living here? >> that's a good question. the idea in temporary housing is the lookout for 18 months of people are eligible. given the size and breadth of this disaster, we have to revisit that at the end of 18 months. who would then offer applicants the option of renting the travel trailer from us. we'll just have to see when the time comes in february where we are in the rebuilding and recovery process. >> we've heard so much about them. >> you know, these are first
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responders. they may be policemen off shift or fireman off shift. i don't have any problem knocking on the door if you like and seeing if somebody is home and talking to them for a moment. we also have to respect the privacy. it would be like walking around the neighborhood and asking them to come in and see your house. generally speaking we don't have any restrictions on the press coming and i'm talking to the folks in the travel trailer parks. >> i don't have the data. this is fairly quick in september or october because it was set up for first responders. but this is relatively typical of what our group cites are like across the state. we try to provide a fenced in area, secure area. there were security guards on the way and contract it by the
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contractors that built the groups i were directly by fema. >> where did all these trailers come from? >> they were purchased by fema under some standing contracts prior to the hurricane season and they were manufactured by various manufacturers across the country. they could have come from anywhere. the great majority came from the manufacturers in indiana. i'm not sure where this came from. some are bought directly off of travel trailer laws. >> any idea what one of these would go for? >> generally $10,000 apiece wouldn't include the site preparation, in stalin and got up and that certainly adds to the cost per view. >> how did you pick this area?
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>> what we did is we cannot strike teams to identify potential areas and they came back with recommendations and approach the owners of the land of the city council to get the sites approved and then we went through contracting, got the sites listed contractors came in. it is not a turnkey operation. there are a lot of steps to that and we are still finding those steps sometimes cumbersome as we build more group cites across the city. ..
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can you turn on the lights? >> sure. we have that bathroom back here and stuff to put in here. >> how many can they sleep?
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>> this one is five. that converts to a bed and this converts to a bed and you have a bedroom back there so five people at the most. the bedroom is right here. what's it like living here? >> i love living here. as a matter of fact the people here are wonderful and warm. we have a catfish fry this saturday and you are welcome if you want. [laughter] it's good. it's great. i love it. i'm not that far from my job. >> what is your job?
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>> on the water board we operate drainage pumps. >> you are from new orleans? tell me about that. >> well, we see the water rising, coming up. so what happened is we lost power and the water supply was cut off. it got to the third level of the station where we were. the water began to settle down and we went to work. we have to have the pumps running. it was quite an experience.
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the >> where was your home? >> it got messed up. i lived on the second floor where i was. you had people coming in busting in places but there was that kind of stuff going on here. >> i'm not sure if they've done anything as of yet. i'm not sure if he's going to do anything. so i will probably relocate somewhere outside. i've never seen anything like that in my life i've seen the water rides back there they've got us on both and like i said
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this was worse. >> what are you paying in rent? >> 395 but it might be double now. everything has gone up. that's what i've heard it's quite high. >> they are going for as much as $800 now. it's so indie band right now can you tell us what the setup is a and when that will and? >> generally speaking, the temporary housing assistance will end after 18 months and
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then people would have to pay rent on their trails. i'm not sure what's going to happen but at this point i would say they will be expected to pay rent on the trailers. >> the travel trailer parkway was established for the first responders and for folks like me that needs to be here to keep the city running. they put these aside right of a and have them there at the request of the city.
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what is your impression as you drive around the city? >> everything was happening so slow and i can understand you by the red tape stuff like that but it will come back pretty soon seeing the devastation in the city and the family displaced anywhere. i know things that will come back maybe not like it was before but it will come back.
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>> i'm the only one here i am lebanese and nephew here that's it. everyone else is gone. >> one of the things people take for granted, shopping, gasoline coming electricity, laundromat. the business is and so forth are
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a slow process coming back but we just have to deal with it and agree. that's what i've done. it's very difficult for people to do that. slowly for sure [inaudible] seeing the devastation in a lot of people were depressed. we live on the sensation storm.
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i think that it's going to houston not liking it out there, coming back here so many things they've had to deal with so that's where we can develop friendships. they develop new friendships and exchange numbers and they can talk about it.
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>> the fema trailer parks have come under so much scrutiny and people have gotten so much bad press about them. why? they were not as prepared as they should have been to get this going. it's the option that we have available for the temporary housing at this point in time. maybe at this day we will have something better in fact congress appropriated for hundred million dollars to look at the alternative trailer solutions. they were looking for ideas to their house people on the basis with this. that is quite a bit.
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>> [inaudible] it is an interest to the policy coming in. >> the policy right now can come in to the security guards informed to let them in and you would have as you would in any neighborhood of the right to walk up and knock on the door. next a look at them lower ninth ward where the industrial canal walls were breached.
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that is a major break right there where that concrete wall is at ground zero and if you recall there was a bar setting up enough green space. they were kind of a dividing line of where utility services had been provided anywhere they hadn't and on the right side you'll see some travel trailers on the site because there are utilities available now. generally speaking on the right side of the street, the northside utilities are not yet dependable.
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the threadbare where they are doing the asbestos removal. >> there is a whole process involved in taking care of the hazardous materials. >> you can see some of the
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result of the breaks in the water lines still in that all i had to the challenges of getting utilities in here to electricity it's not all obviously that remains compromised. but we are pretty close to ground zero. and if you look at it from the air you would see a big spot demolished in place. does it allow all for them to come back and come in no rebuilding to be done here.
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>> i can't speak for the city at this point but as far as fema we will want but the travel put the travel trailers or mobile homes on the sites that don't have viable utilities. >> that's why you don't see them here. it's probably going to slow the development. my thought is that right now i don't think that the city isn't sure what will happen in this area in particular. it's been salvaged and scrapped.
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>> do you know about when this was completed? stacking the target was in the hurricane season and actually will finish in the middle of may. the corps of engineers tell you that it's built into different design.
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the way we see the ninth ward it's not really for us to see if it should be rebuilt. i think it is reasonable to ask for the flood protection system but when you see this just a few blocks up the road with all the vacant housing you would think first things first to get people to higher ground because the house cannot be rebuilt. it's not possible. and you can still smile at that smell.
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>> they can't go in until they demolish it and when they tear down the house like that, they bring the dog first. >> this is the shame of it. this isn't america. all these people should have had restitution you can't bring a trailer down here there are no services down here. there's no electricity.
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there is a container for the ship. >> this would have been the home of the primarily working-class people. it is a misnomer. this was a good neighborhood. very stable. there's a lot of elderly. most have occurred down here for elderly people that don't evacuate. they don't have anywhere to go. they don't want to leave their pets. it's extremely difficult. so anyone but stay down here lost their lives. >> how much different doesn't
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look now than it did. it's 100 times better. when you saw some of the homes over by the wall that was wide open. that was quite an undertaking to flow to the thing off that thing off of the actual sidewalk or street. there were homes here but they were all over the place on top of each other, close to the break and was almost like a huge wall of water hit and a huge hand.
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almost resembled water. the ocean was a big wave twist on top of one another. but of course you can't live down here. there is no infrastructure whatsoever. the fact that it's cleaned up and it doesn't smell like mold and dust you have to have a mask to come down here. it's been very well-documented well documented and you can see that not enough has been done. we have had in the city a great amount of progress. but this solution down here in this area, you know, it would be good to see more things done. it would be good to get money
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into peoples hands that deserve it. it would be good too, you know, have neighborhood plans that are all buttoned up. but when you you're talking about 80% of the large city you can't expect miracles. you'll find a lot of people that would say the government responds at any level was anything to be proud of. >> this is one of three ground zero is that we have. this is the one that garnered the most attention. this is where you saw evidence in the most dramatic manner.
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after the event happened couldn't imagine that it would go on and on and on. i think that the city would have what we feel like a low-grade fever for a long time. we can fix things that needed to be fixed in a few cities have an opportunity to take stock and start over.
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they would like to see a plan for this area. how is this the approaching the area. is there a grand plan at this point how to redevelop these neighborhoods? >> the initial plan to bring new orleans back was started immediately after everybody got back. the urban land institute was in charge of that. that is the correct high ground like in the holy cross. so the recommendation was high
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geographical areas and neighborhoods that have flooded and flooded due to the nature to the breaks in those man-made conditions but where the infrastructure in the housing stock was more repairable then maybe you might see down here. it didn't all happen because these are private property private homes whether the house can come back or what will happen depends on the home opener and owner and that home owners own individual financial and other resources but the city has a planning commission that are understaffed like everything is here.
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the neighborhoods need to get organized. neighborhoods need to prove their viability. and he was very controversial when he said that. and actually people were saying why should we have to prove it seemed very unfair but when you look at it and you look at what has happened in some of the other neighborhoods that were coming back 80 dated and have the best of geography or they didn't have a lot of all the people that could afford it that are getting tremendous work. if a neighborhood that's proven it's got viability from the people who live in that neighborhood, and if they're willing to determination and perseverance that proves a neighborhood via the body. so in the final analysis, a neighborhood strength is not due to the bricks and mortar in the building. it's due to the residents and
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homeowners and how much they believe in coming home. the cross area of the ward was board was also flooded but did not receive as much water. >> jim stark talks about their efforts in the neighborhood. >> we are still in the lower ninth ward this is an area where power and water and utilities have been restored and as you can see some of the trailers were placed on sites where people are rebuilding their homes. >> what is the process they have to go through to get in my end of these? >> they call 41800 number and ask for a trailer to be placed on their private site then we will come out and send a team to make sure the site is liable.
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>> generally we say 30 to 60 days where we are and that is a long time. but in the early days there was a large backup and now we are finding the sites are harder and harder to make freddy. >> was about the size. >> it's the number of factors and people in the family. it's the size of the lot if you get a large family and you can accommodate a mobile home we will put the mobile home instead of the travel trip. >> what about the side, do you know how many people? >> that would be three or four people. >> and you will see on several sites but they are big enough and qualify.
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>> this is still temporary housing and the commitment is for 18 months. >> what happens if the house isn't rebuilt they are still eligible what will happen is they will have to rent a travel trailer, correct. >> with typically will happen is within 18 months someone will find a permanent housing solution or they will go live somewhere else in the hall the travel trailer way. by the looks of it it looks like a couple of them are close to being completed and i imagine pretty soon they will call the 1800 number and one of the contractors will come out and take the trailer of a. >> you lived here before this ever happened. what are some of the personal
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impressions outside your job for what this has done for the city. >> i lived in the section of new orleans that was high and dry and they suffered wind damage and water damage from rain. there are a lot of travel trailers and the interesting thing is a lot of them are families who may have been displaced from neighborhoods like this that have relatives on the other bank of the river and are camping out for lack of a better term in their relatives yard but we did very well over the west bank and faults that they were fortunate things went that way. we came back and i am committed to the city and the job i'm doing now is the director for the transitional recovery office >> we talked about the pace of recovery and other disasters and this one overshadows the size of
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the magnitude of any of the other ones before. hurricane andrew for instance took two years before homestead and we can see that happening here. >> i think early on the response is that we were slow in responding and there were some commitment control issues that worked out ahead of time. having said that they think also again i think also again the sheer magnitude cause anyone into the mistakes were made early on and should have been blamed on fema quite frankly. we are getting better now and through the planning efforts associated in the state i think for this year's hurricane season they were a lot better prepared to move right into the kind of response necessary in the disaster. >> just a couple of blocks away in the neighborhood where the rebuilding efforts have taken place again from the preservation resource center of new orleans. >> when the consultants first
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came and helped bring new orleans back, the urban land institute for one, the initial recommendation which made a whole lot of sense was to rebuild on the higher joy out of the - geography where there was a lot of housing before the storm that needed to be dealt with to get the homes back into the service on the high ground and this is among the highest ground in the city. >> we still have no telephone service here. this is where the garbage pickup is almost nonexistent. there is no mail service. mail is picked up at a school. this is the real urban pioneer to be here. this house we were going to fix
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and will look as good as that house the prefix of the preservation resource center. the person that bought it flooded. >> she flooded and with her insurance proceeds, she did a lot of nice upgrades. not only did she repair the home, but she had all these nice shutters and things installed and has worked really hard but she's the only one on this block that is actually living here for time and this block is all the way as far as you can see there to thereto all the way that you can see there. there's a few homes that are
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finished but people are getting ready to occupy that there is already a handful of people that are living in the holy cross right now because it just, there is no reason for it this not to have been a focus area. specially since so many people in the lower ninth ward lost everything and have absolutely no ability to return. when you have abandoned properties or properties that people are selling them for hardly any money but those couldn't be back in the service and and to be populated by so many people on the other side of claiborne avenue that really are lost and that's what breaks my heart. these are all really good houses and half of them don't belong to anybody.
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>> they came in on the boat around the corner and we stood
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there for about 12 hours then they closed off most of the bridge [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] and nobody, some of them wanted
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to come. [inaudible] >> don't you think that this area is of high ground. people over in her neighborhood in that part of the lower nine the home is gone. >> but isn't this a good place? if people want to stay in the
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community. [inaudible] >> this neighborhood is so great and being able to get back into the service there are still so many problems. but this one - are they going to come back? really?
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>> is the reverend over there now? she needs to know that we are working in the neighborhood. we are not stealing like so many people are they now how to dismantle a bracket. you've got that right. they can't stop them because there is no one around to verify.
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she had a horrible about infestation. she is a single gal living on her own and she has weathered everything in a neighborhood that has happened. we don't have any people to chase them away and they can forage for all kinds of things.
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this is such a painful reminder for everyone that lives here. they did the inspection somewhat of a trip number. fortunately they are still finding bodies here.
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there could be somebody stuck in that attic to collapse where it's really unsafe. it shows faith in the neighborhood. they can't get the trailers down here even though they've been vacant but somebody rented a portal. >> they can but there aren't any this is overlooking the border which you can't be here after 4 p.m.. no one was allowed to spend the night in the neighborhood until the middle of may.
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>> when are you going to get done because i know that your mom is going to come home when you're done. are you waiting for the one home? >> what are you doing. why are you tearing the ceiling down? where you tearing it down? >> so where are you living right now?
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[inaudible] [inaudible] you've got the proposed city are a lot of people going to come back to this neighborhood?
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by the time i got the roof fixed [inaudible] >> what is your impression of the governments response to this whole thing? they do the best they can. how long have you been living here? >> i'm up over there about 70 years ago. i bought the house here. >> what's the biggest challenge right now? the >> money. how long do you think that it will take to get fixed up?
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where can you go for groceries and other types of things? the last stop was at a place called the village at the site that's being developed by the habitat for humanity. >> sara evans spoke with us to >> musicians village is all a chance for musicians and non- musicians to have affordable housing and the mission of the safe affordable housing for hard-working families in need so it's an opportunity for the
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major community center which will be located just around the corner into and the idea is that there will be classrooms to teach their children that are non- musicians and the traditions and cultures that. it was the brainchild of hairy conic who build firehouses before the storm on the habitat for humanity so the connection here. >> when did it start and how does it work? >> we started building on june 1 into the now currently have about 27 homes under construction. we will be dedicating the first, three have already been
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dedicated august $19 the homes are under construction. there are 33 families, 11 of them are locally in orleans and then once the 30 houses are completely closer to shipping again. there will be an additional. some of those will be the units that are duplexes which are not going to be filling the homes in the units to make sure the older generations also have affordable housing options. so there will be 40 more are more coming on to this lost onto this lost and gone musician village concept is bigger than this particular area because this is the core area but the focus is the upper ninth ward so
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we are going to be sustaining the projects. we are committed and we are going to keep building here. >> just like every other neighborhood, - if you are a musician looking hell do you qualify and how does it work for you? >> the first would be the initial application. there are three stages and the first is a credit check and the second is a loan application and a home visit. so they were trying to assess the ability to pay for the shelter and do the home visit on the need for shelter. >> what has it done to the
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entertainment industry, has it affected it at all come our musicians staying away? was katrina has done is caused a cultural diaspora that has been sprinkled all over the country instead of concentrated on new orleans we are all over the place now. they are very good musicians because half of them can't even read music. >> that it but it has an on automation of different cultures.
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>> we got catholics, we got jews and protestants and now we have a growing asian culture as well as in arabic culture involved. >> when we get all of these ingredients together we put them together. the rhythms are syncopated. they are straight up and down on the back. we are expressing it in our body movements and that's why people
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from new orleans we are like nobody else because our rhythms are syncopated. >> [inaudible] >> you can see them around mardi gras. they may offer you looking that good but [inaudible] in some sense it's not that good because we need our musicians and artists to come home. this is going to be a very difficult task now that everybody is spread out. so the object of the village is to get the artist to come back and reinvigorate the culture and pass it around.
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it's been in trouble part of new orleans. they are going to suffer tremendously with regards to tourism. >> adjacent to lake the area flooded in flooded in the 17th street canal or the main canal didn't hold up in the surge of katrina. here is the preservation resource center of new orleans that drove us through part of this area. >> especially when it collapsed in this case it came unhinged from underneath. it's like turning the water hose onto a place.
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>> there is this one little sad thing happening on the vacant lot. >> the looting over here has been awful. mailboxes, windows, shutters. material. i don't know how long those have been there.
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>> what is the army corps of engineers during a network over there backs >> they are doing all the work. >> the army corps of engineers is currently still working on repairs to the breach and is also constructing other flood control devices to try to prevent another occurrence of flooding in the area. we talked with an official at the worksite in lakeview. >> on the left is where it occurred on the canal. what happens here unlike what happened in the industrial canal where the water came over it wasn't up until the flood wall before it reached the top. it collapsed over a section and that reduced or that produced flooding on the protected side
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and similar breaches on the london avenue canal. we have done two things. we have made a temporary repair to those locations. because of this work we no longer have to rely on those floodwalls in the storm surge. we still need them because under the conditions where the structure behind us has to be close, which would be when there is a storm surge we still have to have them continue in that water but it has been significantly a lower level. what will be taking place in the future is that we will be making a permanent repair at that location. >> and what is going on behind you? >> we are standing on the 17th street canal and this is one that conveyed the water in new
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orleans. it's about 2 miles in the canal and on either side was the flood wall and as you may recall during katrina the flood wall failed. what we're doing we are doing here is constructing a temporary closure that will take those floodwalls out of the line of protection. and because we have to make provision to be pumped out of the city in addition to disclosure that you see behind me there are pumps installed in the closure. what we have been doing since katrina is making repairs for the system that we would see during katrina and 41 miles were severely damaged and almost 200 miles were seen. the work we've completed to date is only 20% or little bit less a
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little bit less than 20% of everything that congress has appropriated for us to do.
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exactly as katrina happen whatted following exactly the track, many of the areas will be flooded again. it is that katrina wasn't e enormous and that would happen again. protected against those now, so the extended

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